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 Post subject: Now what stall??????????
 Post Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:25 am 
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Ok this is actually a few questions here goes;
My current setup is a 402 BBC in an '89 S-10 with a TH350 no brake 3500+ stall, truck weighs @ 2700lbs running a 9" with 4.56 gears on a set of 31" slicks. I'm getting things together to change trans setup to include a brake. My main question is this, if I put a glide in should I go with a different gear and also will I need more stall. I only run 1/8 mile where I'm from. Will I need to change alot of internal parts to stay together or will stock hold up? I've put in extra discs & clutches in the one I have sitting in my trailer but nothing more. I know I will change input to turbo. Any help appreciated. I'm on a budget here Thanks, Dave

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 Post Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:36 am 
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On all the swaps I've been involved in, neither the rear gear nor the converter were changed, and all were quicker.  Not to say that you might not be a little quicker if you changed out parts, but they all worked OK without changing anything but the tranny.

At a minimum you will need a Turbo input shaft and the front pump stator suport will have to be machined for the Turbo bushing.  You will also need to buy a steel high gear hub cuz the cast one won't hold up.  You can run a 1:82 planetary but expect to break it in a season or two unless you have a car that leaves real hard, in which case it won't last one season.  For longetivy sake the 1:76 is desireable and with around 600HP or less they will last a pretty good while.  

You need a transbrake valve body and from my recent experience I'd suggest using the "Pro Brake" version to start with.  You can read about "my recent experiences" in another topic in this forum.  You'll also need the aftermarket shift lever to go along with that valve body.  

There are several things that need to be done to both the pump and the case and if you're doing these yourself I'd suggest buying a PowerGlide book from TSR Transmission Products online.  http://www.tsr-racing.com/

If you need parts, Ron Owens, is a BTE dealer and he offers discounts to MSV members.  Sommers Racing is also a tranny parts reseller and you can also contact him here on MSV.  TSR also sells tranny parts and a couple of guys on here have bought stuff from them also.

So you can get into a Glide pretty cheap but the weak link in the above recommendations is the 1:82 planetary.  If that is all you got, then run it till it breaks but if you have a 1:76 available, then by all means use it instead!

One more thing that I would recommend is a deep pan.  You can make one by dropping the bottom 2 inches on a stock pan and making a spacer for the filter to move it to the bottom, or, you can buy one of the finned aluminum pans sold by the resellers mentioned above.

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Dave, If you want to do your own Glide we can help you through the process of gettin it done...I have done quiet a few and so has Ken..

I also have some pic's of what to do as far as the Pump...  =;

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Thanks guys, when I get all things together I'll let you know.

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Ok I think I've got a glide bought.  If I change to the 5.29 gear, what stall should I use?

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anybody????

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I think a 5500 stall works well. What converter is in it now brand ect..
How high do you rev it?

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We really need to know what cam/heads/intake are on the engine.  

Jody if this is a mild hyd cam then a 5500 stall may be too much.  Remember, he has a 3500 in it now.  

If it was me I'd run it as is to see what it does before I spent a bunch more money on an "unknown" combination.  Once you do that you can change stuff around to see if it helps or hurts.  If you change a bunch of s**t without testing each individual change you got no clue as to what each change did.  

Run the truck like it is with the Glide first to get some info.  Then worry about the other stuff.

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Here goes;
402 BBC, stock oval port heads-mildly ported
Team G single plane intake w/single alky carb
Cam specs- solid flat tappet Comp Cams
duration @ .050 254/262
gross lift .612/.617
centerline 108
lobe separation 110
@2700 lbs
5.29 rear gear (was 4.56 before trans swap)
31" slicks
shift point @ 6500
Was footbraking off line @ 2200-2400 with TH350 3500 stall
Switching to glide w/brake

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