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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:07 am 
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That must be why the 7.30 -6.80 cars are kicking butt during outlaw brackets with the .500 protree \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:00 pm 
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Here are the results...as far as Reaction Time

.0019
-.0159
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-.007 Gambers in the other lane only pass in that lane..
.0297 to his .009 lost lifting and breaking out
-.0077 after taking about 8 numbers out
.0237 last time test run to try and dial the box. I think I had about 1025 on that run and tried to let go a little slower.

I was starting out trying to let go as fast as I could only to get bit 1st round. so by the time I got it figured out it was too late. I know I still need alot more runs to get consistant on the tree but the last 2 runs the truck was within 6.334 and 6.336 and a 6.34 lifting the round before. It was fun and I think I will run this Friday and Sunday with the box and see how I do.
I need to get closer than having a 30 number split.. [-(

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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:31 am 
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Two words, practice tree. Saves wear and tear on he car, and will help get the reactions consistent quicker.


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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:34 pm 
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Once you get on to the box you can try different button placement. Some people hold the button with their thumb. I have my best results with my button on the plate that mounts my shifter. I hold the button with the palm of my hand and use the muscles at my elbow to release the button. Those muscles are contracting and I have read that you will have a more consistant reaction that way as compared to releasing a contracted muscle like your thumb with a steering wheel mounted button. Also my switch isn't anything special as it came from Graingers and was all of $6.00. I watch what I eat while racing because a greasy cheeseburger slows you down and caffeine in pop speeds you up. Trying to get that balanced will not be easy. I have talked to others who say that you can't set up for any better than a .015 to .020 light only to see them doing the wrong food and drink all day at the track. On a good day I will try to set up for a .004 to .008 but some times the redlight gets me. But it's been said that if you don't redlight once in a while you aren't trying hard enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:57 pm 
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I took the box out for 2 races and this past weekend (2nd of the 2) I got down to 5 cars.
But I was lucky my lights without the box were between .003 and .108 They were inconsistant as they can be I won 2 rounds by luck and 2 by better light.
So this week I have stuck the box back in and mounted the button on the steering wheel like most have theirs and I will use my arm to pull back instead of the thumb or wrist movement. Any other suggestions?

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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:38 am 
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use your elbow

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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:55 am 
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jmarkaudio wrote:
Two words, practice tree. Saves wear and tear on he car, and will help get the reactions consistent quicker.



thats not true for me ... I suck on the practice tree and the days we use it at the track I cant hit the normal tree very well so I just stopped using it. [-(

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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:02 am 
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Well I don't seem to be any better using my elbow or with the button on the wheel either..
If I hit it right I am double O if I hesitate at all I am in the .040's which will not win a round.
Last pass I made I was .043 and 6.260 on a 6.26 he was .025 7.421 on a 7.42 dial.
I think my trouble is I am trying to leave off the bulb as fast as I can, that I think is where I am wrong. I think I need to pick a spot on that top bulb and pull my hand off at a steady speed. Opinions? I can say I have a New found Respect for Box racing. I always thought it was super easy to be consistant, and I was wrong. :-({|=

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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:20 am 
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Foot brakers say that it's easy....all you have to do is let go of the button :-s ..Coming from foot braking I know where you foot brakers come from O:) ..That is not easy ether :-s ...So with that being said you need to concentrate if you think about it your done if you flinch your done but remember a green light is and could be a winner but a red your done right there.....That is coming from me that won a final round with a .104 lite =; =; =; =; to his .005 \:D/ \:D/

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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:38 pm 
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Make sure you're applying the same amount of pressure to the switch. In other words, you don't want to be pushing it really hard one time and just be barely holding it down the next. That will affect how fast you release the button.

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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:18 pm 
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I was thinking about that this week. During a time run I am simply trying to get a good light, but when I run in competition I am more on edge so I would guess I am pushing harder.
Which would slow my Reaction Time. So I guess I need to push the same, everytime like you mentioned. :-k

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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:29 pm 
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The button itself can play heck on being consistent, everyone I know runs the big mushroom button .. i myself run a small button, I think you finger can get different placement on the mushroom

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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:25 pm 
 
K&R makes the new box called Z Force you don't have to hold the button when you stage you click the button and when you see the light you click it again you don't hold it. i run one of them very nice a little tricky at first because you want to hold the button in but after a few runs it's a snap.


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 Post subject: Re: Delay Box
 Post Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:20 pm 
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Your fastest most consistent reactions will be with wrist and thumb locked and ripping off the button by bending your elbow.

I treat it like shooting a gun. Totally relax, take a deep breath before rolling from prestage to stage, and by all means DONT get on the button till all 4 bulbs are lit. Do not try to anticipate the light. Just react when you see amber. If Im tensed up and finally relax I will go red by .020.


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