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Author:  Beretta [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:59 am ]
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ok here is a screen shot of the 2nd round..What's up with the low EGT's on #1&2 cyd???
Has to be carb as there not like that with the 1150 #-o .Anyone????
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Author:  Beretta [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:05 am ]
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Ken0069 wrote:
Dayumn, I wish I was that fast! ](*,)


It's a PIA to do that trans by your self and it really $ucks getting it back in so I hope I can get my neighbor to give me a hand tonight. I really didn't want to do it but I wanted to be sure there was not anything wrong and hopefully I didn't screw anything up putting it back together :- ..A$$ is going to be dragging today as didn't get in bed till midnight and up at 5am to get ready for work :- ..
Oh and the old fluid is going right back in there too ;-) ..

Author:  Beretta [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:25 am ]
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nomad wrote:
Ahem, excuse me Barry. I meant on the transbrake not in the water. Sorry.



Bruce/Mark, Last scale on the log I posted is the O2 but it's on a Millevolt SP? scale as that was supposed to be Lambda scale according to Computech :- ...Even though you can see it goes rich at the hit and just before as it's has to much acc pump...I think I need smaller cams as I did replace them with the one's that are on my 1150 that I ground down and it looked better that the first log...
Anyway what do you think??? Ank me what ever your thinking and I will look at the log and see if I can answer you...Thanks

Author:  Ken0069 [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:21 am ]
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Beretta wrote:
ok here is a screen shot of the 2nd round..What's up with the low EGT's on #1&2 cyd???
Has to be carb as there not like that with the 1150 #-o .Anyone????


I'd try switching the metering blocks back to front if that's possible to see if it follows the block. If I'm reading that graph correctly, it's much cooler @ part throttle and early in the run but comes closer to the rest down track? :-k

Oh, and how much difference is there temp wise at the beginning of the graph and at what RPM? :-k

Author:  Beretta [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:55 am ]
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Good Idea Ken as they are the same block...

Bruce at the hit here are the EGT's leaving at 5000rpm ish. I can't read cyd's 7/8 as when I shrunk the screen it removed them #-o
anyway..
1-527??
2-667??
3-957
4-1004
5-917
6-902
7-?
8-?
I will get 7/8 when I get home but there in line with the others

Author:  ajcasini [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:45 pm ]
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Barry looks Ike you are getting very cose on the setup. Way to go.

Author:  Beretta [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:00 am ]
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Beretta wrote:
Good Idea Ken as they are the same block...

Bruce at the hit here are the EGT's leaving at 5000rpm ish. I can't read cyd's 7/8 as when I shrunk the screen it removed them #-o
anyway..
1-527??
2-667??
3-957
4-1004
5-917
6-902
7-1013
8-920
I will get 7/8 when I get home but there in line with the others



There's 7 & 8.......Trans is back in and will give it a try tonight....


Here are the EGT's at the stripe on the 6.88 run @ the 1000'
1-1088
2-1098
3-1262
4-1277
5-1247
6-1208
7-1266
8-1233

Mark/Bruce or anyone have any suggestions besides Ken????

Author:  Ken0069 [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:44 am ]
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Beretta wrote:
Mark/Bruce or anyone have any suggestions besides Ken????


If metering block swap nets the same results, ie, 1 & 2 still cool, then I'd try zip ties in the boosters pointed @ 180* from 1 & 2 to see if that will pull fuel away from them. If it does, then you can drop the jet a few numbers to try to balance it.

Not sure why those corners are phat though as the corners are more often lean instead.

Author:  nomad [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:17 am ]
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I'm with Ken on this one. I'm not sure why 1 & 2 are fat. Those usually run lean.

I can't read the snap shot of the log at all. I tried saving it as a jpeg then blowing it up and still couldn't read it.

Author:  jmarkaudio [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:43 am ]
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I would try staggering the jets, take the front down .002 and add it to the rear, see if that helps it. And I agree it is odd if the front is fat...

Author:  Beretta [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:01 am ]
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Bruce, If you hold the CTRL key down and then hit the += key a few times it will blow your screen up...
If not what do you want me to tell you???

Author:  Ken0069 [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:12 pm ]
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The problem Bruce has is the same problem that I have. He has an Innovate logger! \:D/ \:D/

Author:  Beretta [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:46 pm ]
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My point was tell me what you want to see and I can do it from here..

Mark are you ok with the way it's going?? Should I try something different besides the jet change in the front??

Author:  jmarkaudio [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:57 pm ]
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What I can see it's looking good. Just juggle the jetting for best performance.

Author:  Ken0069 [ Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:26 pm ]
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I was talking to a friend about this today and showed him this post and he had a suggestion or two.

1.) How do we know that 1 & 2 are phat? It is possible for temps to be down when it's lean also so how about putting zip ties in to make it richer just to see if it gets cooler??

2.) if those cylinders start out the run cooler than the others, then they will STAY cooler all the way down track! Been there, done that also.

Do we have anything else to tell us that those two cylinders are phat? I mean we're all talking about the EGT and if memory serves, Shrinker doesn't think too much of using only ONE feedback item to justify changes?? :-k

So do we have an O2 bung in either of those cylinders to give us some additional data?? :-k

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