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 Post subject: Brrrrrrrrrr
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:22 am 
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Dammit!!! Tired of 20 degree weather!

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Dammit!!! Tired of 20 degree weather!


Heh, and you think THAT is bad? And our fellow member webermaniac lives in Russia!!

http://rt.com/news/russia-freeze-cold-temperature-379/


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4 degrees here this morning. Yes Winter sucks. ](*,)

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It is a bit chilly, 76 when I left for work... =;


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27* here.........Overall not bad =;

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I had -4 yesterday morning. -1 this morning. Long range forecast says we could hit 40 middle of next week.

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only 98f here today, expecting 106 tomorrow.

Id happily split the difference with you guys =;


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only 98f here today, expecting 106 tomorrow.

Id happily split the difference with you guys =;


Its a deal!

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 Post subject: Re: Brrrrrrrrrr
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I actually look forward to the Cold weather. Today was the first snow of the year. (Jan, 3) I have been cutting wood left and right over Christmas break. I took 2 and a half weeks off, go back on the 7th. I have been burning last years wood in the fireplace all day long. Below freezing is uncommon in our area. But I have grown to dislike the summers. I worked outside for over 12 years and most of the time we have temps over 100 for 30 or 40 days in a row. I have always thought I would like to live in Australia, (I like the country landscape and the People) but thinking of there normal temps, I think I would rather move back to Wyoming and just bundle up.


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 Post Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:11 pm 
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Australia depends on where you live, you can go from full on tropical weather with monsoons etc to moderate cold climate with snow. because Its in the southern hemisphere its further away from the sun in summer and closer to it in winter compared to the northern hemisphere. So the temp ranges are more stable.


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 Post subject: Re: Brrrrrrrrrr
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shrinker wrote:
Australia depends on where you live, you can go from full on tropical weather with monsoons etc to moderate cold climate with snow. because Its in the southern hemisphere its further away from the sun in summer and closer to it in winter compared to the northern hemisphere. So the temp ranges are more stable.


How is the inflation? We have a friend from Australia.
She says that the price of gas goes up and down real crazy, and that its actually safer to live in the city than live out in the sticks. I would want to live out in the country. I know everyone has there own take on a place and it's not necessarily true. I was headed to Oklahoma once on a flight for the first time and a lady told me it was nothing but a dusty dry climate. I got there and the air had a mist like it was raining all the time and they had 100 year old trees all over, and the grass grows without a sprinkler or watering system. The one bonus about being in America is that it is pretty easy to make a living and have a good piece of property, with a big house. The inflation in some places like the U.K. is so high that you get half as much for the same money, and the wages are not any better than here.

Let me ask you this, in your opinion is Australia more "Conservative" or more "Progressive" as a Country. I wouldn't want to go somewhere more Progressive than the US is becoming. In California they consider Windex a Hazardous Chemical, and they jump at the chance to pay more taxes. They consider it an honor to give our money to the Government.


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 Post subject: Re: Brrrrrrrrrr
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:55 am 
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The price of gas here is discounted on a weekly cycle . It will go down usually on Tuesdays or Wednesdays up to about 8 cent per liter then jump up to full retail on paydays. A liter of gas cost $1.43 full retail, thats $5.36 per US gallon BUT our wages are much higher than USA. Average wage here is around 70K to 75K I think. A tradesman here will earn from 70K to 90K here. Australia has one of the highest housing costs in the world but buying a house is not a strangle hold on you, the economy here is a different balance than USA. Its quite a lot different taxing etc. We have free health, hospitalization, doctors are free or cheap etc. Energy is more expensive here than USA but other things are cheaper so it all balances out in the end. The inflation rate is around 3% here at the moment. Australia has largely avoided the GFC, things have got tougher for sure but its not mass shutdown or unemployment.
Australia is a fairly conservative country, developments that happen in other countries that affect your way of living eventually come to here but its usually around 15 to 20 years later so sometimes thats a bonus because the bugs are worked out. Its not a backward country by any means because of that, its still one of the most advanced countries in the world and we have the second or 3rd longest life expectancy, somewhere near the top in GDP per person etc and all that junk that they measure things by. Its a nice place to live and its the second most preferred country in the world to live in according to the latest UN survey of where people would migrate to if they had a free choice. Canada is first. USA was 16th.

Australia is capitalist based but with some socialist blend. Things like public health are a socialist idea. Its a good blend that i think would definitely benefit you guys in USA but attempting to break the capitalist hold that your country has on every idea is going to be a long fight, and thats what happening now isn't it.

As far as safely living in the country or even further out in the bush, there are no problems. Its not like your going to get attacked or shot in the bush. Of course there are incidents etc but they happen in the cities as well. Our crime rate is slightly less than yours check this out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate see how theres far worse than either of our countries.
I can understand how some people could be scared of living in the bush, We have lived in one of the harshest Aboriginal community in the middle of the desert in Australia, but its like any situation, you have to adapt to the environment and the culture. Living in a city is different to that, we saw city people who couldn't adapt and had to get out and back to the city, they were scared etc were as we had no problems, but you do have to be a strong male in control of your family and be a fair person to others.

Australia's country is not like USA, Australia is very sparsely populated over a lot of its area, for instance across the middle outback etc there is nothing but basically fuel stops and they are usually 300K's apart. There is no small towns a horse days of riding apart because it was settled in the 19 hundreds basically. It wasn't until the motor car came along that Australia was opened up. Its a much younger place that USA. So the structure of populations is different as it was populated in the mechanical age not the horse age like USA.


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 Post subject: Re: Brrrrrrrrrr
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:42 am 
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"Australia is capitalist based but with some socialist blend. Things like public health are a socialist idea. Its a good blend that i think would definitely benefit you guys in USA but attempting to break the capitalist hold that your country has on every idea is going to be a long fight, and thats what happening now isn't it."

Your responses are very well spoken and thought out.

I don't think that someone should have to take out a loan for health care. From what I have seen there is already a Million programs available for help and even a full ride for the indigent in our health care system. Indigent has a large curve here. I have seen people with a license plate from Chihuahua Mexico partake of our services, then drive back across the bridge. They are driving Cadilac Escalade's and Vehicles that cost 10 times what I drive. I speak from life experience not a philosophical point of view.

Yes Capitalism Can bring out greed and buyouts and influence the stock market negatively and even harm employee's lives and use them as tools to advance there own wealth.

However I have been "blue collar" my whole life, and I have have also worked a short period of time with a contractor for the Government. I don't feel that our Government is efficient in running a program. They go over budget by a 1000%. They lie about how much the program will cost. Then they tax you if you op out of the Program. I have my own Business. I am about as small as can be. I work by myself. I have to pay Workman's Comp even though I have no Employees and then sign a waver that I will not try to use my own Comp program. Is Capitalism inherently Evil? I don't know, but I don't think that Socialism is the answer. I market myself as "better quality" than my competition, and they market themselves as The same job for less. I get just as much work as they do, and I have seen there jobs. Some of them need to be redone.

To me that's Capitalism. The Cream rises to the top. I put out a better reputation and a better product or service and my Company benefits from hard work. And you can't outsource what I do to China. At least until someone sells the Robots to do my work at a fair price.

Sound like you have a great Country. I would like to travel there sometime. I have been to England, Sicily, Jamaica. And also New York, a world of it's own.


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 Post subject: Re: Brrrrrrrrrr
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:13 am 
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Of course i dont know a great deal about your country and its inner workings, but I can see its vastly different to Australia. You have political fights over principles that are seemingly minor to us. The fights you have are basically fear of a change away from pure capitalism, well thats how it appears to me on the surface. I look at some of your taxing structures and i go 'no way would that work here', see the only way to change is to change the whole system in one swoop, and we all know thats not going to happen. Australia has its Westminster based system with a balanced tax stucture etc and USA has its political system with a balanced tax structure too. Its when someone tries to alter the balance that elements of people get upset. Thats how it seems to me anyway But I cant understand how all this relates to the weather in this thread HA HA. Maybe thats the key, have nice weather and be happy.


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Sorry, I bring up Politics on this site. Because I feel safe to express myself here.


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