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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:02 am 
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WASHINGTON – A federal judge on Thursday blocked a federal rule allowing people to carry concealed, loaded guns in national parks and wildlife refuges.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly halts a change in regulations issued in the waning days of the Bush administration and orders further review. She set an April 20 deadline for the Interior Department to review the rule and indicate its course of action in response to the injunction.

The rule, which took effect Jan. 11, allowed visitors to carry a loaded gun into a park or wildlife refuge as long as the person had a permit for a concealed weapon and the state where the park or refuge was located allowed concealed firearms. Previously, guns in parks had been severely restricted.

The Obama administration had said it was reviewing the Bush rule but had defended it in court.

Kendra Barkoff, a spokeswoman for Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, said Thursday the department is reviewing the injunction.

The Bush administration issued the gun rule in December in response to letters from half the Senate asking officials to lift the restrictions on guns in parks that were adopted by the Reagan administration in the early 1980s.

The rule went further than a draft proposal issued a year ago and would have allowed concealed weapons even in parks located in states that prohibit the carrying of guns in state parks. Some states allow concealed weapons but also ban guns from parks.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, one of two groups that sued to block the rule, called the judge's ruling a victory for the people.

"We're happy that this headlong rush to push more guns into more places has been slowed," he said.

Bryan Faehner, associate director of the National Parks Conservation Association, which also brought suit, said he was extremely pleased.

"We're especially glad to hear that the court is agreeing with the park rangers and the public who are concerned that there will be negative impacts from the regulation and increased likelihood for opportunistic poaching of wildlife and increased risk of violence to the public," Faehner said.

The National Rifle Association had pushed for the change, saying law-abiding citizens had the right to protect themselves and their families while enjoying America's national parks and wildlife refuges. The previous regulations were inconsistent and unclear, the NRA said.

A group representing park rangers, retirees and conservation organizations protested the change, complaining that it could lead to confusion and increased danger for visitors, rangers and other law enforcement agencies.

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 Post subject: Re: oh boy this sucks
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:43 am 
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That was a bad ruling, the reason for carrying was for protection from wildlife..
not too long ago a grizzly bear killed and devoured an ecoligist in a national park.

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 Post subject: Re: oh boy this sucks
 Post Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:07 am 
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The biggest problem with allowing guns in National Parks is the false sense of security some people get. Fending off a grizzly is no easy matter and things can be complicated very quickly with a poorly placed shot. Your average joe isnt going to carry enough gun to do the job let alone stand his ground and place his shots right where they need to be.
Dont take this wrong I'm not against being able to carry guns but most people would be better off leaving them at home and watching wildlife through binoculars.

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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:35 am 
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oldtimer wrote:
The biggest problem with allowing guns in National Parks is the false sense of security some people get. Fending off a grizzly is no easy matter and things can be complicated very quickly with a poorly placed shot. Your average joe isnt going to carry enough gun to do the job let alone stand his ground and place his shots right where they need to be.
Dont take this wrong I'm not against being able to carry guns but most people would be better off leaving them at home and watching wildlife through binoculars.


It would be better than just being eatin by a bear, and those that are watching wildlife would not need a gun because their watching it, it is those who are camping or hiking, camping is one of the most attractive to bears because of the food..

fish and game use's rubber bullets to fend off bears that are getting too close to campsites and or bean bag gun's.

If i were sleeping in a tent i would want to be armed in an area bears were known to frequent.
A bunch of my buddies hunt in maine and they camp out for 2 weeks, their is someone always on watch for bears at knight coming into the campsite, they sleep with loaded 44 mags alongside their cots.

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